Protagonist And Antagonist

I was just another failure of an author, writing stories nobody read, and that never sold. Seeking to improve my writing, I read the most popular novel at that time, Solo Player, to learn what made it so popular. However, as I read this story, I couldn’t help but feel frustrated about the story’s development, which had a terrible ending. Eventually, and quite bitterly, once I ended reading the book, I found myself transmigrated into the very world of this novel. Did I become the Protagonist? A Villain? Or perhaps even an Extra? No, it was much worse than I imagined. Because I ended up becoming the most worthless character that nobody ever cared about in the novel. A character that is often considered the motivation for the protagonist to grow stronger, but also his greatest burden. Someone every reader hated! “I’m the protagonist’s sister…” However, with my knowledge of this novel's events, my worthlessness was about to change. I’ve decided to not only become the strongest but also change the story’s terrible ending! “I won’t let you go inside a Dungeon, it’s too dangerous.” ...As long as I can get this incredibly corny and overprotective brother out of my way! And for some reason, the Constellations won’t stop bothering me. Ding! [The Cosmic Throne {Butterfly That Flies Across The Universe} seems interested in your tenacity!] [She has sponsored 1000000 Plot Points and the [Demon of Calamity Transformation Technique (SS)] Skill!] [The Cosmic Throne {Monkey that Dances in Chaos} finds your chaotic nature amusing!] [He has thrown the [Umbral Chaos Stone Necklace (S Rank)] at you!] [Not enough? He launched the [Immortal Heaven Peach (SSS Rank)] right on your face!] There was something really wrong with the Constellations this time around. Ding! [The Cosmic Throne {Jester Filled With Lies} is happy that you’re bringing despair to your victims!] [He has gifted you the [Jester’s Last Laugh (S Rank Privilege)] and the [Master of Manipulation (SS)] Skill!] [The Cosmic Throne {Maiden that Watches Over Nature} seems happy you’re growing stronger.] [She has gracefully sponsored you with 2000000 Plot Points and Fully Heals All Your Wounds!] [She has also begun to wonder if you could plant some trees for her, gifting you the [Divine World Tree Seedling (SSS Rank)]!] [The Cosmic Throne {Warrior That Seeks Calamity} is satisfied with your battle performance but asks for more battle!] [He has sponsored you with 500000 Plot Points and [Beheading Sword of Destruction (SSS Rank)]!] They simply couldn’t stop gifting me things as if I were some sort of famous streamer for them. “I am grateful, but please just leave me alone already…” Chapters are long, 1500 ~ 2000+ words. During its serialization, this novel will be available for free forever, no premium. However, you can read advanced chapters here: https://www.patreon.com/pancakeswitch Copyright 2023 PancakesWitch. All rights reserved. No part of this work may be reproduced or used in any manner without the prior written permission of the copyright owner, except for the use of brief quotations in a review. This novel is also being posted on Scribblehub and Royal Road. If you see it anywhere else, please let me know. Thank you.

WPC June 2024 Winner ---------------------------- What would you do, if you could transmigrate to the anime you designed? Upon transmigrate to the anime world, Owen found himself standing at the edge of the arena. A tall, coldly beautiful figure held a staff, arrogantly surveying the crowd! At this moment, the system sounded! [Ding, please choose: 1. Challenge on stage to receive a god-tier reward 2. Abandon the challenge and lose 50% HP!] Challenge! [Ding, congratulations to the Host for obtaining a god-tier reward] [God-tier Talent: Order of Merlin, Host's leveling speed increased tenfold!] [God-tier Skill: Mana Void, Host's surroundings become a no-magic zone!] [God-tier Weapon: Godslayer Staff, the strongest weapon! Can transform into any shape!] Nice, let me show you the power of a transmigrator! At this moment, the system's voice sounded again: [Ding, please choose: 1. Host marries the strongest female antagonist and conquers the world together 2. Abandon the challenge and lose 100% HP!] Excuse me??? Is there even a choice here???

After being transmigrated into a comedic yuri novel as a hapless cannon fodder male character, Luo Wusheng desire one thing only, and that is to survive the incoming battle that would eradicate every member of his Sect. However, the developments of things seem to be spiralling out of his control. After a year full of hardwork, he noticed that some of the original Protagonist Harem Member, who are supposed to be into girls, behaved a little bit weird around him. Soon, he realized why. The Holy Maiden of the Demon Sect has a secret crush on him. The Empress of the Immortal Nation wants to have him as her consort. The Nine-Tailed Fox Netherqueen, the Monarch of the Netherkin Nation, wants to be his mate till the end of time. “Little Yuli! Aren’t you the original main character? Aren’t they all your girl? Please get them off me!” Facing the surrounding sharks, Luo Wusheng cried for help. As the original main character of this Yuri-Themed Xianxia World, the Protagonist nodded her head, and with a determination expression on her face, she answered, “You are right, the only one who can have you is me!” Luo Wusheng, feeling stupified at her word, can only stare in shock toward the incoming meteor that is the female sword cultivator. Luo Wusheng: ???, What's wrong with these girls??

After being transmigrated into a comedic yuri novel as a hapless cannon fodder male character, Luo Wusheng desire one thing only, and that is to survive the incoming battle that would eradicate every member of his Sect. However, the developments of things seem to be spiralling out of his control. After a year full of hardwork, he noticed that some of the original Protagonist Harem Member, who are supposed to be into girls, behaved a little bit weird around him. Soon, he realized why. The Holy Maiden of the Demon Sect has a secret crush on him. The Empress of the Immortal Nation wants to have him as her consort. The Nine-Tailed Fox Netherqueen, the Monarch of the Netherkin Nation, wants to be his mate till the end of time. “Little Yuli! Aren’t you the original main character? Aren’t they all your girl? Please get them off me!” Facing the surrounding sharks, Luo Wusheng cried for help. As the original main character of this Yuri-Themed Xianxia World, the Protagonist nodded her head, and with a determination expression on her face, she answered, “You are right, the only one who can have you is me!” Luo Wusheng, feeling stupified at her word, can only stare in shock toward the incoming meteor that is the female sword cultivator. Luo Wusheng: ???, What's wrong with these girls??

The Bootlicking Antagonist Wants to Survive, but Female Lead refuses to follow the plot One car accident and I’m transported into a city power fantasy as the villain. As long as I survive until the grand finale, I can return to the real world with hefty rewards. But! These stunning beauties don’t go to serve as the protagonist’s harem, they surround me every day. Are they not satisfied with how slowly I’m dying? Stop wearing stockings, stop wearing uniforms, what’s with all of you trying to seduce me? To find Long Aotian! Since destiny is in my hands, I might as well challenge the protagonist directly! Who’s the protagonist, damn it, who knows! My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jodex7

Feng Chen, the esteemed head of the Feng Clan, had lived a peaceful life for thirty years since his transmigration. He believed his life would continue as it is—until his 30th birthday, when his System finally arrived! But along with that came the plot for the Main Character. Ling Meiyu: “I can no longer be engaged to Feng Yun. His cultivation is low, and he is unworthy of my Ling family’s status!” Feng Yun: “Today, it’s not you, Ling Meiyu, withdrawing from the engagement. It’s me, Feng Yun, repudiating you! I am divorcing you today!” It seems like my brother is the protagonist!

Have you heard the story of an ordinary person with a dream of becoming an author? Well, that’s not me. I'm just a regular person who, out of nowhere, finds himself transmigrated into the body of Arlon Throndsen—the infamous antagonist from a novel, The Seventh War. Arlon’s fate is sealed, destined to die at the hands of the story’s hero, Lawrence Hill. To survive, I have to navigate Arlon’s dangerous world, balancing his dark reputation with my own desire to rewrite fate. Along the way, I uncover secrets buried in the shadows of this story—secrets that might doom or save us all.

As if becoming the [Final Antagonist] of a novel wasn't enough, Ivan had unfortunately or not also the memories of 6 other Antagonists of the six other Novels he had read. What happens when the mind, strength, goals, and pride of 7 Antagonists merge? It didn't matter to Ivan. All he wants now was to protect his Faith and for that he'd continue in then same path as he took in the novel with the difference than he wouldn't let the Protagonists kill him. For that first he must join the Exorcist Academy! The problem? He was possessed! *** For the illustrations and questions: https://discord.gg/47PvntgB3K

In a world of cultivation, dragons, and other fantastical beings, what happens if a villainous playboy gangster named Wang Jian is reincarnated? Pure chaos! Lin Feng: Wang Jian! How dare you capture my childhood friend and mess around with her?! Su Xian: I-I am with him willingly. Lin Feng: N-No way. You are lying. There is no way you would wear that maid dress otherwise! Wang Jian: It's not just her. Before Lin Feng could understand what he meant, in front of him appeared several women, all dressed in maid outfits. Upon seeing these women, his anger rose dramatically. Many of them were women who used to love him dearly. However, Lin Feng was merely the first protagonist who suffered at Wang Jian's hands. The game had just begun as Wang Jian's wicked desires knew no bounds and he began to target the other protagonists while seducing their women through psychological tricks and forceful methods. ~~ Tags: Male Protagonist, Anti-Hero, Villain, System, Huge Harem, Romance, Action, Adventure, Transmigration, Reincarnation, Imperial Family, Politics, Evil Protagonist, Demons, Unprincipled, Beautiful Female Leads, R18+, Rape, Rape Victims Become Lovers, MILFs, Schemes and Conspiracies, Beasts, Beast Companions, and so on etc. ~~ (A/N: Well, MC returns back to Earth to fulfil a test to become a Godking.) Join my discord through the following link. discord: https://discord.gg/wHXfwGGCV3

Jian committed suicide and woke up in a novel world. He bumps into Yu, the protagonist, and chooses him as his murderer. But both fall in love during the process. Will this persuade Jian to change his goal?

[NO R-18 scenes/seggs scenes as it's made for everyone of all age to enjoy, thank you.] Long Tian, a seemengly ordinary guy who got unexpectedly transmigrated into a xianxian novel world and became the sole heir of the mighty Tian family, the undisputed overlord of Donghuazhou. However, fate wasn’t on his side as—he was destined to play the role of a villain. In this world where Sons of Luck and destined protagonists, roamed everywhere, dangers lurked in every corner of the world. Even with his family’s unmatched power, a single mistake could bring everything crashing down. 'This world… it’s full of walking disasters for me,' Long Tian thought, his expression dark. 'But I know the plot inside out. Let’s see who outsmarts who!' Determined to turn his "villainous fate" into his advantage, Long Tian began to strip away the chances meant for the protagonists—their opportunities, power, women, and resources. Step by step, he stole their golden destinies and made them his own. But just when victory seemed assured, he unearthed a horrifying secret. The Tiandao Emperor, his most trusted brother, had been orchestrating his downfall from the start. Every success, every move, had been part of a grander scheme to plunge him into the endless cycle of reincarnation. 'You thought I’d be your puppet, Tiandao? You think I’ll bow to fate?' Long Tian’s gaze burned with defiance. To hell with the Way of Heaven. He wouldn’t just defy it—he would destroy it. If the heavens dared to block his path, he would tear them apart. ### Super Gift - 5 Bonus Chapters!

When Persephone Athena James first met Bodhi Patrick O'Neill, a bond formed between them. As time passed and they grew, a love formed between them. When the future became the present, their secrets divided them. What secrets are they hiding and can the truth lead them back together?

Imagine graduating college in a few months, and then the apocalypse happened. What’s more, dungeons and monsters appeared, superhuman powers awakened and the world changed, yet Jade remained as he was—the ever so heedless, unbothered, emotionless, and weird guy manning the cash register. But some people deemed him lucky because he seemed to be unaffected by all those happenings. But would they still believe that when Jade came home one day from his night shift, tired and hungry, to find a dungeon gate right inside his house? The worst thing that could ever happen to him was get sucked in that gate, however, instead of the gate, strange Seekers are sucking up to him instead. Jade: Why is this happening?! Seeker 1: Help me go back to my world and I can give you everything you wish for. Seeker 2: I don’t care about going back to that damned world, so can you just let me stay here with you? Seeker 3: Jade, honey, you’re the best Minder! I need you, so come with me to my world. And so on… these Seekers are all lunatics forcing him to help them go back to their respective worlds! But how can Jade do that, when all of them were just mere characters from books?! Now, what will Jade do?

A remake of another novel I created. Kazuki Takumi Amagiri was always a kid with a troubling life, abusive parents, poverty, being bullied at school you know the usual sob story that probably goes in a documentary for the early life of a serial killer or something. Throughout his life he's always wondered if maybe the reason world hates him was because he had the audacity to exist. But through a series of events he met his best friend and was introduced to a series of games where he found his spark of resilience to carry on in life in a character named Markus one of the main antagonists of the book. And ten years later he's a university student, dormmates with his best friend and is just about to finish getting his degrees. He'd also just finished playing the third installment in a his favorite video game franchise All was going well in life, things were looking up until in one cruel twist it was over, no fanfare, no "going out with a bang", Kazuki's life just fizzled out like a candle in the wind. Curiously though, Kazuki's story was not over as he found himself in the body of "Markus" at the start of his story. How will this strangely ironic twist of fate change the world at large? And more importantly how will it change our main character?

After getting hit by a bus, Edward gets sent to another world, forced to complete a mission to save it, which he successfully accomplishes. But just as he's about to enjoy his well-deserved hero life, a cosmic screw-up by the goddess sends him back to Earth. On the very same day, while saving his sister, Edward gets hit by a bus again, ending up back in front of the goddess. Now, in accepting a new reincarnation, he brings the goddess along to a new world, aiming for a peaceful life. However, he discovers that his fate is tied to saving a useless webnovel protagonist, complicating his aspirations for peace. "Well, killing all the villains is the easiest way to do that."

Liu Xun has lived a tough life for the past 25 years but he never complained about his hardships. However. When he was suddenly brought into a cultivation romance novel after he had just received his hard-earned promotion he finally lost it. "F*ck! Laozi was such a model citizen, Why are you doing this to Laozi?!" To make matters worse, both protagonists were cold-blooded murderers, especially the male lead, Wan Yu who was a bit of a psycho. He seemed to be at odds with everyone and enjoyed torturing people, especially the big villain, Wu Jing who was particularly miserable at the end. And he just happened to be that Wu Jing. Liu Xun: vomit blood jpg. Fortunately, every cloud has a silver lining and this new life of his is not beyond saving yet. Filled with determination, Liu Xun swore not to cross paths with the protagonists and lay low as an Outer disciple. Unfortunately, Heaven seemed to have another plan for him. Liu Xun put on an unfriendly face and turned to glare at a certain little boy, "Why are you following me?" The little boy timidly spoke, "... Can't I stay with you?" Liu Xun immediately replied, "No." Even though he decided not to be involved with him, as a normal grownup adult he still couldn't turn a blind eye toward the child abuse in the end. As a result, he ended up helping the little male protagonist a few more times. After some time passed, looking at the fair-faced harmless little boy, Liu Xun tiredly sighed like an old father. Never mind, I will raise him during my stay as the Heavenly Sect's Outer disciple and we will go on our ways in the future. Unbeknownst to him, in a place where he couldn't see, the little boy's eyes turned cold while silently observing him. Wan Yu who came back to the past a while ago dangerously narrowed his eyes. Who is this person? ... Should I just kill him? After some time passed, looking at this not-so-bright and foolish person, Wan Yu pinched the space between his eyebrows and gave an almost inaudible sigh. Nevermind. As long as this guy doesn't betray him he is willing to take him under his wings. A comedy-romance story with a model citizen (?) transmigrator shou x a black lotus reborn gong, no dog-blood drama. The cover doesn't belong to me. Everything is fictional and shouldn't be taken seriously.

love/hate?

You know the rebirth in another world tale. Get cool powers and possible gain an unrealistic harem. Well I was reborn as the best friend to a harem protagonist in a fantasy setting. I'm given prompts by something that wants me to entertain them. So not the most normal version of this type of tale. What's the worst that can happen. { Help save the world} Fuck.

What if the world you created one day becomes a reality? The character you created becomes real and they have only one goal: you and your loved ones' death. Nuwa, an aspiring writer whose world turned upside down when the characters from her book started to become real and if it was not enough, the characters seemed to come after her and her loved ones, with the world crumbling. She was left with only one option, killing your enemies before they kill you. Excerpt~ “What do you want, Ryong?” Iseul gritted her teeth, demanding an answer. “Nothing much.” Ryong grinned, ”Just your and little brother’s heart.”

Alrich Zane Falco is a famous young actor and model. But because of being with the controversial man in the Entertainment Industry, some of them hated him and told him to leave the circle too. However, Alrich didn't give a shit. He loves Red more than his fans. That's why when he finds out that Red's cheating on him because he can't give him a child. He decided to take his own life. Yet, he transmigrated in a book that he also didn't give attention to back then. He became Alrich Zane Falco, the same as his name, but unlike in the real world, he can give birth to a child with the help of the system. He was so optimistic at first. But realized that something was wrong. The babies inside of him have two fathers. And he's also married with them. How did it happen? Who's the twin's father, Jin Linran and Jin Weilan? Or the black sheep of the Jin family, the firstborn in Triplets, Jin Sinian? The person who's not on the list, as he thought he only had two husbands. PLAGIARISM IS A CRIME. The Original (Tagalog) Version was done year 2023 already. And I'm now working in translating the book in English.

In a land where magic and mystery intertwine, one man stands at the edge of the unknown—armed not just with steel, but with knowledge far beyond the world’s grasp. "Courage and Blade" follows the epic journey of Gaowen Cecil, a war-worn hero who, after awakening in an ancient, broken land, remembers another life—a life where he wielded knowledge and technology that could change civilization itself. Transported into a fantasy realm on the brink of collapse, Gaowen finds himself in a crumbling stronghold surrounded by threats and mysteries. Yet, with a rare, ancient artifact in hand—the legendary Courage and Blade—and a mind sharp with the wisdom of another age, he takes on the impossible task of rebuilding his family’s legacy from scratch. As he pushes forward, he realizes his quest is not only to rebuild his homeland but to restore hope in a world haunted by dark forces and ancient secrets. Courage and Blade isn’t just a tale of battles and monsters; it’s a story of rebirth, of pushing beyond limits, and of challenging the very fabric of fate. With an intricate world woven from magic, politics, and ancient power, Gaowen’s journey invites readers to witness a clash of old and new, where every choice he makes shapes a legacy that will either bring a dawn of prosperity or plunge the world into unending darkness. For fans of epic world-building, complex magic systems, and heroes who break the mold, Courage and Blade offers a saga of resilience and renewal that explores what it means to forge a path where none existed before. Join Gaowen on his quest and uncover the secrets that could either save or doom a forgotten world.

"Ugh! Why did the author choose my name as the Villain's name of all the names in Coldbourne? And that damn villain killed his own baby in jealousy when he is the one who destroyed the lives of the lovely couple Arik and Maven." While walking on the streets, Hael Argyris, a bartender in his early thirties, cursed his heart out after finishing "The Two Alphas And Their Forbidden Love," his favorite Manga's last chapter. *Crash* *Bang* *Whack* Just like that, a truck ran over him and he was dead. *Swoosh* "Ugh, why is my whole body hurting like a truck hit me?... WAIT! I WAS REALLY HIT BY A TRUCK!" Hael Argyris looked at his body, which was perfectly fine, but the odd thing was... he was NAKED under the sheets, and beside him was lying a man. "What the hell-" He paused as he looked at the room with dilated pupils. "This is the room in Hotel Fortune where the Alpha Arik Esmeray and that shameless villain Hael Lucian spent their night together, right?" "I remember the details of the room very clearly cause I looked at it many times admiring the artist's work... but how can this be possible?" He stretched his neck to glance at the sleeping man and was left in utter shock. "ALPHA ARIK ESMERAY?" And shut his mouth quickly. He then saw himself in the mirror in front of him. He had wolf ears and a tail sticking out above his butt. "So, I got transmigrated into my favorite Manga? But... why am I the fucking Villain? And why at this scene?" Hael banged his head on the wall but sensed a sharp pain in his butt. "Yikes! My rear end! First, I have to get out of here before he wakes up. I need to run away from this fucking city otherwise I will end up in jail at this rate and meet a miserable end.... ahhh!" To save his ass Hael dressed up and left the hotel room leaving a small note on top of the drawer beside the bed. Three Months Later... "Hael, you are pregnant with twins." "WHAT?!" Hael was shocked. »»-----------«« What will Arik do when he gets to know that the person he had a nightstand with under drug influence was pregnant? Will he accept Hael and his pups? Will Hael give Alpha Arik a chance when he knows that there is someone else in the Alpha's heart? »»-----------¤-----------«« Author: Hottest Villainess. Published on: 24-07-2024. Genre: Omegaverse, ABO, Transmigration, Rebirth, Time travel, Angst, Melodrama, Romance.

Summit, a 30 year old Seon Creature from the ancient clan of Poe, loves to read books. But he wouldn't expect he would transmigrate right into a book, no less at that. Oh, hey! He really likes to read, what would you feel if your betrayed by something you love absolutely then gets thrown in some hard ass trials? Oh, I would feel like.. actually I have no idea. It was a normal cloudy day in the mountains of PavoClan (means Peacock Clan,) Summit, the one who loves reading books, is transmigrated after a strange hourglass hit him right on the head, into a book that was becoming extremely fun to read (what I need) and it was peak, with so much emotion. But a dark mystery was behind it. He never read to that point, so why know it? Why get killed by a hourglass that should actually do little damage, which, yea, it's quite hard to kill Seon Creatures? That was the important part, because the secret behind it will massively affect everything he'd ever known.

" Why this place out all of the fantastic novels I had read in my whole life ? " I looked at the unfamiliar surrounding and Unfamiliar people as some memories flooded into my mind. At that particular second, I realised how much I am fucked up. Because of an untimely transmigration I was stuck into the world of an Ero-genre novel I read before my death. However, Neither I was a hero, Villain or any side character but the protagonist's son who was born after the finale ending. Hastily, I typed the keyboard buttons in front of me. --- Netizens, please help !! I wanted to go back home. Unfortunately, no one responded until a few days later a message notification popped up in front of my eyes and the mysterious goddess in charge of the transmigration took the initiative to communicate. I wouldn't say much but several years later that the children goddess gave birth to were more than enough to make a football team for me.

Damian got reincarnated into a game of his as the protagonist and decided to go on a hunt for woman whether, mature or inexperienced, short or tall, chest big or small, a demoness or goddess even his own blood relatives. He would got them all

When archaeologist Nick Stolhm inherits his mother's unfinished quest, he uncovers a hidden world of ancient mysteries and mystical powers. But it's not just the secrets of the past that haunt him - it's the deadly forces seeking to control the future. After his mother's mysterious death, Nick seeks guidance from her longtime friend, Dr. Hassan. The elderly scholar reveals a shocking truth: the Shadow Security Force (SSF), a clandestine organization, silenced Nick's mother to protect their sinister agenda. The SSF will stop at nothing to exploit the Library of Fates, a realm where destinies are written and altered. Nick must assemble a skilled team and outrun the SSF to reach the Library first. From the physical to the Spirit World, they brave treacherous landscapes, rival expeditions, and mythical creatures. As Nick confronts his mother's killer and unravels the mystery of her death, he faces an impossible choice: avenging her or protecting humanity from the SSF's evil grasp. Will Nick's determination and loyalty be enough to overcome the forces of darkness? Will Nicks thirst for revenge and closure jeopardise the fabric of fates , or will he find a new path to redemption??

I transmigrated into a novel and became the protagonist uncle's wife. Fiona an assassin ended up in the body of the antagonist and became the wife of the protagonist's uncle who is known for being cold hearted and the mother of his child.How will she cope with title from being an assassin to a mother and a wife.

Was he a pawn or would he reach the end of the board and flip it over? ............. At the age of 5, Leon's parents were slaughtered in front of him, but instead of getting arrested and punished, the case was closed off, with the villains of the incident running free. At the age of 24, he had turned into a mass murderer crazy psychopath. After sending many criminals to hell, he finally got his revenge and killed the people responsible for his parents' deaths. However, instead of finding solace, what he felt was never-ending emptiness making him lose his will to stay alive. Surrounded by cops, instead of struggling he leapt off the building deciding to end his life. Alas, fate played another joke on him. He was selected by Deity and was sent to a world filled with protagonists and antagonists of urban cultivation novels. And to his utter dismay, when he woke up he found himself in the body of trash fucked by fate brutally. His mother divorced his father and remarried. His fiancee was taken away by another one. A girl whom he fell in love with later turned out to be his step-sister and engaged with someone else. His stepmother had thrown him out of the house and blocked his cards. Recounting all the bullshit, Leon finally lost his sanity. "Screw you all and Screw the world." "I wanted to have peace but since you are not going to let me in peace, you will see my dark side." Follow Leon's journey as he tramples over the so-called childrens of heaven and destiny villains, and strives to the top of the world. ................ .......... I am a complete novice. My English sucks still I will try my best. However, despite all the flaws, I hope you can give it a try.