"The mortal world may be chaotic, but it's the best place to experience life and train oneself. Without knowing the secular world, how could one strengthen the heart of Dao?"
"My heart is the heart of Dao, which is firm in itself. Why should it be certified by all those feckless things? Cultivators ought to sever themselves from worldly matters. By attuning themselves to the rest of the world, wouldn't they be tainted?"
"Severing from worldly matters comes after one obtains the Great Dao. If all abandon the mortal world before achieving Dao, how is the world to be made up? How are life and death be decided?"
"The world runs on itself, and life and death happen when they happen. What do all mortal beings have to do about them?"
"Haha…"