"Miss Lisa, you're deceiving me, aren't you? You must be deceiving me; you certainly have your reasons. Is it that mercenary who's blackmailing Baron—"
"Buck, calm down, okay? Let me tell you about Mr. Ivan. When Ivan was younger, he was lively and naive, and a bit mischievous. After getting hurt once, he realized the importance of strength and decisively declared that he was going to change.
And he truly did make an effort, improving his abilities quickly. He learned various languages successfully, and became an outstanding pharmacist.
Who else could achieve what he has? No one, right? Mr. Ivan is like a hero straight out of a novel. No, he is a born hero, destined to become a notable figure. The small Flying Fish Port simply can't hold him back—"
"No, it's not like that. There are no such things as born heroes."
"Of course, there are, and Mr. Ivan is one. I won't allow you to spout nonsense, Buck. Out of respect for our past, I won't hold you accountable this time."