"Perhaps even higher."
Sandra took the initiative to articulate what Link hadn't fully expressed, "Gerard appears to move freely, stretching and shrinking at will, yet he doesn't seem to feel much danger. The worry in Fred's heart is his sense of crisis. As long as Fred's confidence and will are not overcome by his worry, he can keep climbing under the influence of his sense of crisis!"
"Exactly."
Link agreed with Sandra's words, "So..."
"So, using the 'Do Whatever You Like' platform, we can create a relatively equal and free atmosphere, narrowing the gap between them, letting Gerard feel the chase from Fred, letting Fred realize that what he fears is not really insurmountable. By doing this..."
Sandra's eyes shimmered, her tone excited.
"In this way, both sides can make progress, continuous progress!"
Link took over Sandra's words, added what she wanted to say, then changed the subject, "However, how to grasp the balance in this is a very challenging matter."