"We shouldn't attribute all the problems to Mobutu's greed and brutality. The real reason he lost was that he couldn't manage interests properly,"
"Why do I support Ngonga and also seek to win over Komi?"
"Because I know that only by involving locals in the sharing of benefits can everything run smoothly."
"Otherwise, just suppressing rebellion and coping with external pressure would exhaust me!"
"The core issue in Congo is not about North-South conflict, tribal disputes, or ethnic clashes, but that you can't manage the distribution of interests properly."
"North Kivu and South Kivu, the two mining provinces, could be very rich, but why does everyone hope they remain rotten, even the Congolese themselves think it should be that way?"
"That's because the Congolese know that even if North Kivu and South Kivu become wealthy, it won't benefit them."