As soon as the three people met inside the lady's room, they immediately talked about how they met Victoria, yet what captured Ashiel's attention was the moment that Charles said something from his past involving Victoria - yet leaving Hersha out of it that made him widen his eyes for a bit until he shook his head to focus on what Charles was saying.
"I would never think that she's changed now. In the past - she used to visit the imperial household just to talk to me, she used to cling her arms to me whenever she had the chance, she used to always talk about me in every conversation. However, I never expected that she'll change in a short period"