So that's how it is...
Owen Bertram remained speechless for a while, looking at Ava Bertram and then at the large pot. There were too many incomprehensible things about Verna; he was hardly surprised anymore.
"Alright." Owen Bertram lightly pinched his sister's cheek: "You continue cooking."
Then he pointed at the remaining three: "Follow me out."
His sister grabbed his hand, and Owen Bertram reassured her, "I'll just talk to them. Don't worry, I won't make things difficult for them." Only then did Ava let go and suddenly remember, "Ah, I forgot to stir! It'll burn!" She hurried over to the large pot, grabbed a large wooden spoon, and stirred vigorously, her eyes fixed on the pot.
Owen brought Matthew and the other two out and ordered Ethereal Devin: "Interrogate them separately! Don't let them collude in their testimonies!"