Sael pulled Shiv and Gregory aside after returning to the castle. He had debated on talking to them ever since his return from Demon Lord Metti's lair. Both had gifts of prophecy though vastly different in their nature. He had consulted them plenty in the past. Asking both to help him plan the fight against the Void Dragon. It was hints he acquired from them that not only let him navigate the prepared traps but to predict the outcome. Their guidance let him know that Gaeren would be used by the Shadow in the fight allowing Nee to slip out of the Shadow Hold amongst other things.