Near the beginning of the Nothing, it was spherical and it split into having two sides. These two sides rubbed together, frictioning, mixing, and creating new things. This happened before our creator lived.
If youve ever been curious where magic comes from, or what it is, it was brought forth from the Nothing mixing and frictioning upon itself.
As an example, fire started from the Nothing rubbing on itself and is now a part of one of the Nothings layers. Fire was later extracted from the solid matter you possibly read about in "Existence Hollowed: Our Origins".
Magics source is the Nothing, specifically, where it began.