The Fist of Defiance and the Mace of Retaliation developed a lot of infamy since they became prominent.
The father was the worst of all. He was clearly smart enough to understand the delicate political nuances that caused a lot of division among people.
Yet he often voiced his opinions and openly confronted whatever he considered stupid or wrong with hardly any restraint!
This was part of his personality and identity .The Fist of Defiance literally derived his power from opposing what he considered to be a detriment to society. His frequent impolitic remarks had made others a lot more guarded against his presence.
No one wanted to ruin relationships and cause hard feelings when a confrontation could be avoided!
The Mace of Retaliation had inherited many of his father's bad habits, but he at least distinguished himself by being a little more reasonable.